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The spectrum always seems to shift back to the left. What a terrible stroke of bad luck, and things were just starting to go right.

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Posted by Rabid-Echidna - June 9th, 2009


At 7:00 PM today, to be specific. It'll be the first concert where they play their new songs off Octahedron, then they go Bonnaroo in Tenessee I think, then out of the US for the next 4 months or so. I thought the Ventura Theater was kind of an obscure and ultimately unremarkable kind of venue, but apparently they enjoyed playing there so much the last time that they opted to make it one of two US tour sites. Plays out well for me, I guess you could say I'm stoked.

Edit: Show was crazy suck it MadCow.

Edit 2: Oh yeah I'm seeing Les Claypool at the same place on Saturday as well man what a boring week this is.

Hell yes I'm seeing the Mars Volta


Posted by Rabid-Echidna - June 7th, 2009


Finding a job when there are none. What a shame that Kirby Vaccuums didn't work out, I was starting to think Craigslist was a legit way of finding work.

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Posted by Rabid-Echidna - April 23rd, 2009


Probem of Evil

To attempt to justify the existence of evil based on an idea of Earth serving as some celestial soul-making machine places too much faith on a bizarre assumption. The idea of the soul machine is dependent on the duality between good and bad, since there would supposedly be no way to produce any persons of character without first showing them certain things to avoid. Hick closes his argument with the sentence "Second, if we ask whether the business of soul-making is worth all the toil and sorrow of human life, the Christian answer must be in terms of a future good which is great enough to justify all that has happened on the way to it." Satisfactory enough for a Christian, but absolutely unacceptable to anyone who doesn't follow the religion. It's difficult to believe the doctrine of a religion that professes to have a benevolent, omnipotent God when you're watching videos about the Holocaust, and I would highly doubt that Mengele was just trying to help people build character.

Hick argues that evil is derived from necessity. If people didn't get stabbed every now and then we would all be living in a cartoon, and such a fantastic way of life is stated as being meaningless. This would mean that it's impossible to have any sort of personality unless you've overcome some sort of hardship to acquire it. Even without arguing about whether or not the previous statement is actually valid, this doesn't explain the Christian God allowing certain people to exist in the first place. If someone lives a life filled with nothing but suffering, there's no dramatic buildup where they walk out a better person. When Joseph Fritzl locked his daughter in their basement for 24 years while periodically raping and assaulting her, she left it psychologically scarred and anemic. The argument goes that the afterlife justifies this existence. Having never personally died and never having been able to question a dead person on the matter, I can't speak about whether or not this is correct, nor can anyone else. What does strike me as odd about this scenario is the absolute cruelty of the concept of life. You are tossed into it without your consent, expected to figure things out on your own, and given no legitimate explanation about where you go when it's done.

At this point it's required to make a modification to the Christian model of God. You are tasked with deciding whether you should sacrifice omnipotence, omniscience, or benevolence. By sacrificing omnipotence you create a God that can see what's going on an really wishes he could help, but is unable to do so. By sacrificing omniscience, you have a God that loves everyone and could help you out easily, but doesn't know what's going on and is thus rendered useless. Sacrificing benevolence is a bit more unsettling, creating a God that knows people are being tortured to death, but decides that this is perfectly acceptable and lets things carry on accordingly. You can also choose to sacrifice two or three, but after a certain point you can't really consider this being to be a God. With the simple explanation of "God did it and you'll figure out why later" ruled out, it's necessary to try and come up with an adequate reason as to why evil exists.

Present in the nature of man is what we refer to as free will. This is a very troubling concept, since it seems to have no place in contemporary physics. Given that the universe exists with certain established physical laws, that would imply that if you knew the motion of every elemental particle in existence and determine where it's going and how it will react with all the other particles, you should be able to predict the future. When every action is explainable with a mathematical equation, it denies the existence of free will, yet we feel that we have choice in our lives, and the mechanical nature of things makes us wonder why we're sentient and our computer isn't. This might be explained away by the uncertain nature of quantum physics, where there are still laws that govern the universe, but they're flexible and based more on probability than rigid, determinable outcomes. There's room to move, and perhaps gets closer to explaining consciousness.

From this model, the universe was created by the Big Bang, and carried along its course of patterned particle interaction over the course of several billion years, until eventually the Earth formed and had just the right specifications to develop life, which slowly turned into modern humans by the process of evolution. Though having a noticeable order to it, since we can study the development of fossils and the creation of stars, on the subatomic level this was a process of chance. The probabilities are rigged in such a way that an ordered outcome is likely, but not necessary. In Brian Greene's Fabric of the Cosmos, he wrote the about the functionality of entropy. There's always a chance that when you break an egg on the floor, it will reassemble itself, though incredibly unlikely.

One interpretation of creationism is that God made the Big Bang and then stepped out of the picture, but this doesn't excuse him for the daily occurrences of evil in the world. Though it's demonstrable by physical laws that evil exists by chance, it's still taking place in the framework that God created. If God is to maintain his omniscience, you have to declare that he would have seen all the problems ahead of time and figured out a way to stop them from occurring. By creating a set of spacial and time dimensions in which acts of evil may take place, as well as allowing the creation of a planet that would ultimately be populated by a species that subjects its own members to scaphism, God is merely the guy setting up all the props for the play. This also has the side-effect of completely annihilating any possibility for free will to even exist in the first place. If God knows every action that will occur in advance, there's no way for you to have any choice. Any perception of choice is merely an illusion, and an act of God's initial design.

The problem of evil is only a problem as long as you try to blame it on something. If I can't point the finger, I am resigned to simply accepting that evil exists by a natural game of chance. Though unfortunate, this is entirely understandable and there is little that can be done to avoid it or prevent it in the future. Human nature allows for hatred and animosity because it came about in the course of evolution for the sake of self-preservation, and though it's no longer desirable it remains as a vestigial character trait in certain people. Perhaps if we manage to survive our own technology long enough it may even be bred out of the species eventually.

To address the issue of the creator in this case, it's possible to turn to theoretical physics for a possible explanation, though it comes with its own problems. One of the main problems with our theological ideas of creation and God is that we seem to operate in a strangely limited view of the world. We experience time as a straight line leading from the past into the future, and we travel along this line in a single direction at a standard pace. With this model, there should logically have to be a point where this line started, and it's debatable whether or not it needs an end. We don't know what the future holds, but we can see into the past and the idea of the Universe having always existed, though not necessarily impossible as a theory, is at least impossible to comprehend. We thus create the idea that there must have been some being at one end of the line that put everything in motion, a theory written about by Thomas Aquinas.

String theory, last I checked, stated that strings operate in something like 10 dimensions. That means there are at least six more dimensions that we do not experience, nor are we able to comprehend. To do so would be like explaining sight to someone who has been blind their whole life. Within this new expanse of dimensions, it's not unusual to suggest that time shouldn't be confined to a line. Stephen Hawking wrote about the concept of spherical time in A Brief History of Time, saying that it would eliminate the need for there to be a God, since there would be no start or beginning of time. Though mathematically possible, what begins to happen is perhaps even more disturbing that eliminating the possibility of God. It begins to look like we can't even make an accurate judgment or debate the question rationally, since we're incapable of experiencing existence in the dimensions in which it actually operates. We're like an engineer tasked with trying to build a tank by looking at a cross section. The question can never be answered, and any possible theories are trivial and uninformed.

This is, of course, based on a theory of quantum mechanics that has an unintended side-effect of being anti-metaphysical. It may very well be wrong, in which case we are left to our old devices. One of the more interesting arguments uses, borrowing from St. Augustine, is that there is actually no such thing as evil. "Evil represents the going wrong of something which in itself is good." Though perhaps an interesting thought to entertain, it's an entirely meaningless statement. It's more a game of language than anything with an application. I can refer to the inside of a cave as being dark, or I can say it has an absence of light. What the statement really does is try and replace evil with neutrality, but this doesn't work. Neutrality is your average state of being, in which you are impartial to the world around you. A sudden gunshot wound will quickly shift this feeling of neutrality towards the negative side of the spectrum, and attempting to change the word association doesn't do much to stop the pain. Hick also starts talking about the duality of good and evil while simultaneously trying to say that there isn't one, writing "Evil - whether it be and evil will, an instance of pain, or some disorder or decay in nature - has not been set there by God, but represents the distortion of something that is inherently valuable." If everything is good and evil is merely the parasitism of good, it would still make sense to refer to that process of degradation as evil. It is not an instance of matter and empty space, but two polar opposites of a spectrum of experience.

Ultimately, I can not incorporate the idea of God into any models of the world that actually seem to make sense. Evil exists as a negative force in the world opposite to good by natural order, and any attempt to look for someone to blame will either lead to a disappointing creator or an absence of one. Understanding the minor workings of the universe makes our human experience look incredibly limited and provides no answer. I might argue that the best option is to simply endure the storms that nature throws at us and at least try and work the negative character attributes out of our collective psychology, but that's assuming that such a process is possible. Or we can hope that everything will be fine and God will buy us a drink in Heaven to make up for having to be stuck on the Judas Cradle.

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Lol @ writing things while stoned, at 2:00 AM the day it's due. Use physics to try and kill Christianity, it's always a good time.

Lol Essays


Posted by Rabid-Echidna - January 25th, 2009


Case
Motherboard
RAM x2
Graphics Card
Power Supply
Processor
Hard Drive
Monitor
Controller

Plus some old 160 GB hard drive I salvaged from my old computer. The Antec 900 may be a ricer case but I got it more for the good things I read about the airflow than the blue LEDs on the fans. Newegg is definitely the best place to buy computer parts, just about everything was discounted. I don't even need 8GB of RAM for anything but I figured I might as well buy some because it was only an extra $25. So far it's run everything I've thrown at it at 45-60 FPS. Crysis on all the highest settings and resolution drops down at times but usually doesn't go below 30. I bought the controller almost specifically for Devil May Cry 4 because it's fucking unplayable without one and I got an Amazon $30 gift card for Christmas. It now has exactly $.01 on it.

I'll take pictures of it once I find my camera so you can see that I'm too much of a lazy slob to actually tie down any of the wires inside.


Posted by Rabid-Echidna - December 10th, 2008


24 single page essays and a 7 page, sourced paper all to be done by tuesday? Studying for a government test makeup as well, along with studying for the religion final?

FUCK YEAH SIGN ME UP. SMOKE WEED AND WRITE ESSAYS AT DOUBLE SPEED, GET SHIT DONE.

Edit: Aced the class. I guess frenzied, last-minute speed writing is acceptable enough in terms of quality to warrant it.

I love finals


Posted by Rabid-Echidna - November 7th, 2008


Is better than about 99% of standup.

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Posted by Rabid-Echidna - October 21st, 2008


RabidKangaroo15: http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=zRqcfqiX CX0
RabidKangaroo15: lolz
RabidKangaroo15: MCCAIN 08
boss trombone: I saw that
boss trombone: pretty scary
boss trombone: that people are that dumb
RabidKangaroo15: Welcome to middle America
RabidKangaroo15: THE BLACKS WILL TAKE OVER IF OBAMA WINS
boss trombone: and the terrorist
boss trombone: s
RabidKangaroo15: When I think of the average McCain supporter, I think of people like the ones in that video
RabidKangaroo15: Because I find it to be accurate most of the time
boss trombone: what the hell is a second stringer?
RabidKangaroo15: Beats me mang
boss trombone: Most of these people are old and will be deadn it will be oooooook
RabidKangaroo15: Not dead soon enough
RabidKangaroo15: And their horrible children will take their place anyway
RabidKangaroo15: Who are just as stupid as they are
boss trombone: I don't get how areas like are dumb kinda
boss trombone: what makes them different
boss trombone: than NY
RabidKangaroo15: I don't know
RabidKangaroo15: All I know is that I never want to go to Oklahoma
RabidKangaroo15: Certain places in the country just suck in general
RabidKangaroo15: Local culture I guess
RabidKangaroo15: There are a ton of them here as well, despite California being mostly democrat
RabidKangaroo15: I was out at a protest the other day and there were just as many Yes on 8 people as No on 8
RabidKangaroo15: Which is kind of pathetic
boss trombone: what's 8?
RabidKangaroo15: Voting yes on proposition 8 is voting to outlaw same sex marriages
RabidKangaroo15: I was waving signs around with the no people
RabidKangaroo15: It was a good time
boss trombone: sounds boring
RabidKangaroo15: Not really
RabidKangaroo15: All my pals were there too
boss trombone: you freedom fighters
RabidKangaroo15: It was sort of like a protest/party
RabidKangaroo15: And we got way more support from people driving by than the other sons of bitches
boss trombone: Is the only argument against gay marriage religious ones?
boss trombone: are*
RabidKangaroo15: As far as I can tell
RabidKangaroo15: The other guys were waving signs around which said shit like "Prop 8 = Free Speech" and "Prop 8 = Religious Freedom"
RabidKangaroo15: Both of which make no fucking sense and have nothing to do with prop 8
RabidKangaroo15: But I wouldn't expect any sort of coherent thought process from them
RabidKangaroo15: A bunch of them were shouting about sinners and whatnot so I guess that's their main motive
boss trombone: ha
boss trombone: Christianity will die out
boss trombone: h
RabidKangaroo15: Not soon enough
RabidKangaroo15: Maybe if we evolve
RabidKangaroo15: If we manage to not nuke ourselves into oblivion long enough to do so
boss trombone: Isn't evolution taking place every day?
RabidKangaroo15: Well yes, but not on any significant scale
RabidKangaroo15: Any really noticable change takes wat too long to see in the average lifetime
boss trombone: I think the relationship with computers is proof enough
RabidKangaroo15: No it isn't
RabidKangaroo15: There's no physical change
boss trombone: No one remembers shit when you can just google it in a second
RabidKangaroo15: I try to
boss trombone: bah
boss trombone: why are all my browsers dead but aim works
boss trombone: dfgfdg
RabidKangaroo15: Beats me
RabidKangaroo15: How long has your computer been running
boss trombone: weeks
RabidKangaroo15: That's why
boss trombone: I don't see how that's why but a restart couldn't hurt
RabidKangaroo15: Whenever I leave my computer on for a long time certain things stop working
RabidKangaroo15: like if I'm running Winamp I can't use Firefox
RabidKangaroo15: It's mainly because Windows is a piece of shit
boss trombone: be hip and use linux
boss trombone: brb
boss trombone signed off at 11:16:31 PM.
boss trombone signed on at 11:18:12 PM.
boss trombone: Success
RabidKangaroo15: Thought so
RabidKangaroo15: Windows just sort of deteriorates over time for no apparent reason
RabidKangaroo15: Until everything stops working and you have to restart
boss trombone: I've never had that happen actually
boss trombone: Maybe you need a nice restore
RabidKangaroo15: Maybe Windows is shitty
RabidKangaroo15: maybe Windows has always been shitty
boss trombone: It's the best choice
boss trombone: avaiable
boss trombone: l
RabidKangaroo15: Well yeah, but that doesn't make it good
boss trombone: do you listen to any podcast?
boss trombone: s
RabidKangaroo15: Nope
boss trombone: seceptic's guide to the universe is really good
boss trombone: skep
RabidKangaroo15: Never read it
RabidKangaroo15: Probably don't need to
boss trombone: read?
boss trombone: Heard of?
RabidKangaroo15: Heard of
RabidKangaroo15: It's a book right
boss trombone: It's a podcast
RabidKangaroo15: Well, shows how much I know about it
boss trombone: Are you thinking of hitchhikers guide to the galaxy?
RabidKangaroo15: No
boss trombone: oh
RabidKangaroo15: I have read that
boss trombone: it's a science podcast about philosophy, debunking consparicy, etc
boss trombone: conspriracy
boss trombone: wait
RabidKangaroo15: Do you need to use iTunes to listen to it
boss trombone: conspiracy
boss trombone: I dunno
boss trombone: it gets auto added to my ipod
boss trombone: I;m sure winamp can do it somehow
RabidKangaroo15: I usually just listen to the radio
RabidKangaroo15: I know they were saying on KPFK that there's a podcast with Alan Watts lectures
RabidKangaroo15: Which would probably be good
boss trombone: There's lots of good stuff
boss trombone: the one i mentioned is a pretty popular one
RabidKangaroo15: You should listen to some Alan Watts
RabidKangaroo15: You can download a bunch of his stuff here
RabidKangaroo15: http://www.spacetruckingmogul.com/mind fieldtv/
boss trombone: Is Terence McKenna your idol?
RabidKangaroo15: I don't really have an idol
RabidKangaroo15: But he's one of my favorite people
RabidKangaroo15: Food of the Gods is one of the best books I've read
boss trombone: I heard he says some crazy things
RabidKangaroo15: Not really crazy, but some of it is kind of pseudo-science
boss trombone: is listening to Alan Watts, Religion of No Religion #1, on Alan Watts Podcast
RabidKangaroo15: Novelty theory is basically speculative nonsense, but I never payed any attention to it
RabidKangaroo15: As a philosopher he's good
boss trombone: Wait, you're a buddhist?
RabidKangaroo15: Nope
RabidKangaroo15: But there are elements of Buddhism that I find aggreeable
RabidKangaroo15: Certainly a lot more than Christianity
RabidKangaroo15: Which is almost entirely complete shit
boss trombone: Why? Christianity has good values
boss trombone: besides the whole god tihng
boss trombone: thing
RabidKangaroo15: Such as
boss trombone: Not killing people
RabidKangaroo15: Wow
RabidKangaroo15: That's nice, but the crusades kind of contradict that
RabidKangaroo15: And the entire history of Christianity being the reason for killing large amounts of people
boss trombone: That doesn't apply to modern day
RabidKangaroo15: The thing is, Christianity is just another one of the control structure religions
RabidKangaroo15: It was invented by the Romans so people would do what the rulers wanted
RabidKangaroo15: It has no legitimacy, and if you read the Bible it's fucking horrific
boss trombone: How would we have reached this point in technology with out structured religion?
RabidKangaroo15: Technology has nothing to do with religion
boss trombone: Yes
RabidKangaroo15: If anything it's hindered by it
boss trombone: No one would obey
RabidKangaroo15: How is technology related to religion
boss trombone: i'm taking aobut in the start
boss trombone: about
boss trombone: People would murder
boss trombone: steal
RabidKangaroo15: People can behave themselves just fine without Christianity
boss trombone: I don't think that's true in <1700
boss trombone: God explained everything and now he will be phased out. it's the lie that got us here
RabidKangaroo15: <1700 Christianity was the direct cause for just about every negative thing that happened
RabidKangaroo15: It's responsible for reversing technological process with the Dark Ages
RabidKangaroo15: It's responsible for shit like the Spanish Inquisition
RabidKangaroo15: Responsible for religious wars
RabidKangaroo15: Responsible for teaching the masses that they'll go to hell forever if they have any sort fun in life, as well as if they question God
RabidKangaroo15: And responsible for the strong ties between church and state that still exist today and serve only to make people increasingly ignorant and to hinder further progress
RabidKangaroo15: We have advanced despite Christianity, not because of it
RabidKangaroo15: The church has fought every major advancement at every turn
RabidKangaroo15: They were against ending slaver, against women's rights
boss trombone: I see what you're syaing but I still think religion played a huige part in keeping people civil till this day in certain situations
RabidKangaroo15: There are inherent aspects of human nature
RabidKangaroo15: Making people obedient doesn't necessarily mean that you're helping them out or protecting society
RabidKangaroo15: It just means that you're tricking them into believing your bullshit
RabidKangaroo15: You can choose from a multitude of other religions that are infinitely less destructive and oppressive than Christianity
RabidKangaroo15: The only thing I can say about Christianity in terms of getting us where we are now is that a lot of people have been Christian up to this point and there are still lots of Christians
RabidKangaroo15: And I regard that as an unfortunate fact
RabidKangaroo15: And give the religion no credibility whatsoever, nor will I ever try and make a positive point for it beyond saying that a few select elements of it are positive
RabidKangaroo15: But those few points should be pretty evident to begin with, and are nothing more than parroting back some incredibly basic philosophies
RabidKangaroo15: Don't kill people, don't steal shit
RabidKangaroo15: Way to go Christianity for figuring that one out
RabidKangaroo15: Too bad you still have all that stuff about stoning your son to death if he disobeys his parents and selling your daughters into slavery
boss trombone: I don't see how that would matter with out religion.
boss trombone: If someone was born with out the laws of murder and the religion values about murder people would murder
RabidKangaroo15: Legal philosophy should naturally be removed from religion in terms of co-dependence
boss trombone: what?
RabidKangaroo15: It exists only to make people believe in fairy tales and ends up giving them a broken morality
RabidKangaroo15: You say people would murder without religion
RabidKangaroo15: People murder with religion anyway, and I manage to not kill people despite not being religious
boss trombone: so what do you l ive by
boss trombone: and why
boss trombone: preserve life?
RabidKangaroo15: I live by my own standards of decency that I've rationalized by myself
RabidKangaroo15: The only thing I've really derived from the Bible is "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you"
RabidKangaroo15: Which seems fair enough, but it's hardly a revolutionary idea
RabidKangaroo15: It just seems like basic decency to me
RabidKangaroo15: And I think preservation of life is good enough depending on who you're preserving
RabidKangaroo15: I also think there are an awful lot of people who deserve to die
boss trombone: No one deserves to die
RabidKangaroo15: Oh yes, yes they do
boss trombone: It's not their fault
RabidKangaroo15: Sure it is
boss trombone: It's how they were taught and where they live that makes the person
boss trombone: It could be you
RabidKangaroo15: Say you rape a 5 year old girl then kill her and nail her body to a crucifix in the front yard of her parents
RabidKangaroo15: That's your decision and you're the one that should be held responsible
RabidKangaroo15: And if at no point you're even sentient to question your actions, fuck you
RabidKangaroo15: You can teach me whatever you want, it's my role as a conscious, free-thinking being to question what you're saying
boss trombone: I didn't mean it like that, of course people who do stuff like that should have the same done to them x10 I thought you meant like the people in that mccain vid
RabidKangaroo15: They're really no better
RabidKangaroo15: They don't think for a second that what they're saying might be wrong
RabidKangaroo15: And they don't even bother to research what they're saying
boss trombone: they should be free to be ignorant
boss trombone: if they want
RabidKangaroo15: So they do on saying things like "OBAMA IS A MUSLIM" and don't even take 10 seconds to figure out that he's not
RabidKangaroo15: Ignorance is dangerous to those who don't want to be ignorant
boss trombone: If everyone was on the same level I don't think things would be very interesting
RabidKangaroo15: Depends what the level is
RabidKangaroo15: I wouldn't mind an enlightened society, personally
RabidKangaroo15: The time periods where everyone wallows in their own stupidity haven't worked out so well
boss trombone: They can live their life happy in their ignorant bubbles and dunno what they're missing.
boss trombone: sounds great to me
RabidKangaroo15: Maybe the people in Salem should have had religious freedom to believe that all their townspeople were witches, but there's a definite problem when you start burning people at the stake
RabidKangaroo15: Ignorance is bliss, but it's a false bliss
RabidKangaroo15: Nobody knows anything and neither do you
boss trombone: so what
boss trombone: all living is is keeping yourself happy why does it matter how you do it
RabidKangaroo15: So you all enjoy your circle jerk and any sort of real potential for philosophical advancement is squandered in favor of nonsense
boss trombone: why advance? it's just the same happiness on a smarter level
RabidKangaroo15: Happiness is just a base emotion
RabidKangaroo15: It's enjoyable and certainly something worth seeking, but when you say that happiness is the ONLY reason for living, that's where I'll disagree with you
RabidKangaroo15: And in regards to religion, that false sense of righteousness and joy usually comes at the expense of someone else
RabidKangaroo15: So as a whole, it doesn't result in happiness for everyone
boss trombone: How is that not the only reason? People only do unpleasent things so they can have greater happiness in the future.
RabidKangaroo15: When they were executing people for heresy, they thought they were doing it for the side of good
RabidKangaroo15: Meanwhile, the other half is being executed
RabidKangaroo15: If people weren't living off millenia-old stories about an omnipresent God that doesn't actually seem to exist, they might not feel the need to kill people for having the wrong imaginary friend
boss trombone: boss trombone: How is that not the only reason? People only do unpleasent things so they can have greater happiness in the future.
boss trombone: your firneds use you for essays
boss trombone: friends
RabidKangaroo15: No they don't
RabidKangaroo15: But whatever
RabidKangaroo15: Anyway
RabidKangaroo15: Say I enjoy torturing someone
boss trombone: who doesn't
RabidKangaroo15: If this brings me happiness, by your model I should be able to do it all I want
RabidKangaroo15: The person I'm torturing is irrelevant
RabidKangaroo15: I'm not saying the pursuit of happiness is a bad thing
RabidKangaroo15: Not in any sense
RabidKangaroo15: But happiness at the expense of another should be discouraged
RabidKangaroo15: And I think that true happiness comes from something entirely different
boss trombone: You make fun of people at the expense of others for your own enjoyment
RabidKangaroo15: It comes from questioning your role in the world, and establishing a point in life that's not "behave myself so I go to Heaven."
boss trombone: hm
RabidKangaroo15: Of course, because it's good fun
RabidKangaroo15: And I find that most insults
RabidKangaroo15: Usually have some sort of message behind them
RabidKangaroo15: Or at least the good ones do
RabidKangaroo15: The only people I insult are people worth insulting
RabidKangaroo15: And even then all I'm really doing is pointing out their flaws in a particularly brutal manner
RabidKangaroo15: And maybe they'll pick up on that and consider my viewpoint
RabidKangaroo15: And they can retort and I'll consider theirs as well
RabidKangaroo15: So it's a sort of bitter exchange of ideas
boss trombone: wowza
boss trombone: I have other things to say but go deliver your cheating paper anyway
RabidKangaroo15: Will do


Posted by Rabid-Echidna - October 2nd, 2008


to spend $700 billion helping middle-class families who are struggling with health care, housing, gas and groceries? Allow them to spend more, and put more money into the economy, instead of helping these big financial institutions that played a role in creating this mess?

"That's why I say I, like every American I'm speaking with, were ill about this position that we have been put in. Where it is the taxpayers looking to bail out. But ultimately, what the bailout does is help those who are concerned about the health care reform that is needed to help shore up our economy. Um, helping, oh, it's got to be about job creation, too. Shoring up our economy, and getting it back on the right track. So health care reform and reducing taxes and reining in spending has got to accompany tax reductions, and tax relief for Americans, and trade - we have got to see trade as opportunity, not as, uh, competitive, um, scary thing, but one in five jobs created in the trade sector today. We've got to look at that as more opportunity. All of those things under the umbrella of job creation."

FOR MORE INCREDIBLE INSIGHT, BE SURE TO WATCH THE VP DEBATES.

POST-DEBATE EDIT: SURPRISE, SHE STILL DOESN'T KNOW A DAMN THING ABOUT ANYTHING.

Why isn't it better, Governor Palin,


Posted by Rabid-Echidna - August 25th, 2008


AKA WHO'S THIS RABID FAG WHAT KNOWS NOTHING BOUT NOTHING

RabidKangaroo15: These calea plants are like $3 each
RabidKangaroo15: Hahaha
boss trombone: Yeah!
RabidKangaroo15: I have to make an eBay account first
RabidKangaroo15: $3, with $9 shipping that is
RabidKangaroo15: Comes to a whopping
RabidKangaroo15: $12
RabidKangaroo15: oh no
boss trombone: Pretty good for an endless drug supply
RabidKangaroo15: I think so
boss trombone: I wanna get a blue lotus plant and a few others too
boss trombone: You can make your own smoking blends
boss trombone: like spce gold
boss trombone: ii
RabidKangaroo15: I like how this stuff is illegal in Lousiana and nowhere else in the world
boss trombone: yeah haha
RabidKangaroo15: What a pathetic shithole of a state
boss trombone: someone with the name lousiana_something bought some and left feedback
boss trombone: I think I told you that before
RabidKangaroo15: They can make it illegal, but it's not like you're going to get caught
RabidKangaroo15: No cop would know what the fuck it was
boss trombone: yes
boss trombone: How would something like that ever be made illegal?
boss trombone: Or become a topic of discussion?
boss trombone: even*
boss trombone: It's not like it's popular
RabidKangaroo15: Bitter old republicans looking for good things to be made illegal because they're douchebags who spend their spare time making life worse for everyone
RabidKangaroo15: basically
boss trombone: what a wonderful world
RabidKangaroo15: Not really
RabidKangaroo15: But that's why you leave it and go elsewhere
boss trombone: mars
RabidKangaroo15: If humanity colonized Mars we would just fuck that up too
RabidKangaroo15: Unless there was some massive evolution within the timespan required to do so
boss trombone: evolution of what?

RabidKangaroo15: Either cultural or mental
RabidKangaroo15: Which I guess could go hand in hand
RabidKangaroo15: But it won't happen
boss trombone: Oh boy my cake is done
RabidKangaroo15: There's plenty of speculation about terraforming Mars but chances are we'll nuke ourselves off the face of the planet before it's viable
boss trombone: You're not optimistic about anything
RabidKangaroo15: Not about government at least
RabidKangaroo15: Or at the very least, certainly not the fucking US government
RabidKangaroo15: Hooray for living in a terrorist outlaw state that is consistently voted as having the worst impact on the world
boss trombone: I think having obama will shake things up a bit
RabidKangaroo15: I think not really
RabidKangaroo15: The president is more of a figurehead position
RabidKangaroo15: He might try to change the more important things, but it won't amount to anything
RabidKangaroo15: Plus Obama isn't really this savior that everyone makes him out to be
boss trombone: Then how do you fix this?
RabidKangaroo15: You don't, lol
RabidKangaroo15: You wait for inevitable nuclear holocaust knowing that the only thing you can do is blame someone
RabidKangaroo15: And not actually change anything
boss trombone: That won't happen
boss trombone: everyone has morals
RabidKangaroo15: Hahahahahahaha
RabidKangaroo15: Hahahahahahahahaha
RabidKangaroo15: Sure they do
boss trombone: It's mot like expecting is better than hoping for the best
boss trombone: n
RabidKangaroo15: We've already been a few seconds away from absolute destruction before
boss trombone: When?
RabidKangaroo15: During the Cuban missile crisis there was a point where some US destroyers were firing on a Russian submarine
RabidKangaroo15: We didn't know that the submarine had nuclear warheads aboard and ready to fire
RabidKangaroo15: They didn't know what the hell was going on and thought there was a war going on
RabidKangaroo15: The commander of that submarine ordered the nukes to be fired, which was a legitimate order and was recieved
RabidKangaroo15: The only reason they didn't fire was because the order was countermanded by a higher official a few minuted before they shot them off
RabidKangaroo15: If he hadn't been there at the time, enjoy your Mutually Assured Destruction
RabidKangaroo15: They would have nuked the US, the US would have responded by nuking Russia, etc, etc
RabidKangaroo15: Enjoy the end of the species
RabidKangaroo15: But that didn't happen
RabidKangaroo15: So that was a near miss
boss trombone: I don't understand how people can allow that to happen. What's the point of winning the war if you have no one to rule over?
RabidKangaroo15: There was a second one during the Cuban Missile Crisis as well where we had our bombers already fueled up and on the runway to nuke Russia
RabidKangaroo15: JFK called them back and did some hasty diplomacy before it happened
RabidKangaroo15: You need to understand the politician mentality
RabidKangaroo15: All the US government really is
RabidKangaroo15: is a giant crime syndicate that does whatever it can to expand its own power and control and indoctrinate its populace
RabidKangaroo15: It's sort of like a tribal war only with a few hundred million people as part of each tribe
RabidKangaroo15: And if the conflict gets serious the only thing they really care about is that the other guy dies when they do
RabidKangaroo15: So you have a bunch of rich guys with giant guns and a hellbent, egotistical agenda, with the power to wipe out humanity for the sake of their own stupid little scuffles and a strong inclination to do so
RabidKangaroo15: And things constantly move towards intensifying that
RabidKangaroo15: So now we're adding more military bases
RabidKangaroo15: in Poland this time, as an attempt to expand our military presence
RabidKangaroo15: And as a display of our great democracy we do it even though 90% of the Polish population is against the bases being built there
RabidKangaroo15: As such, Russia sees it as a threat and threatens to nuke Poland in self-defense if we go through with building the bases
RabidKangaroo15: Which we will, because that's what America does
RabidKangaroo15: And we're already planning to weaponize space
RabidKangaroo15: With satellites that can nuke any place on the Earth within a few minutes of giving the order
RabidKangaroo15: Power does what power wants
RabidKangaroo15: You have no role in this game, you just get to observe
boss trombone: I don't think the people are as evil as you make them out to be
RabidKangaroo15: Well not people in general
RabidKangaroo15: It's not like you meet these people on the street
RabidKangaroo15: The only reason they're in the leading positions to begin with is because the sort of people who really crave power are the ones that are going to get it
RabidKangaroo15: And people who crave power almost exclusively don't deserve it
RabidKangaroo15: But they're determined motherfuckers, and through preservation they managed to take over the country
RabidKangaroo15: But at the same time, it's not like the average American is all that great
RabidKangaroo15: Working retail gives you undeniable evidence of that
RabidKangaroo15: Just a bunch of vacant-stare, semi-sentient soccer moms walking around in a consciousness daze and picking up disgusting food to feed to their horrible cracker-spawn children
RabidKangaroo15: But you weed through the masses of human waste and pick out the few people that aren't painfully dull or offensively stupid
RabidKangaroo15: And things become decent enough on a local level
boss trombone: What's the US going to do if it got rid of its nukes? I mean,we would be invaded
boss trombone: by other countries with bukes
boss trombone: n
RabidKangaroo15: Nukes have no place in an invasion
RabidKangaroo15: The only reason nuking Japan worked was because it was a first strike
RabidKangaroo15: If other countries had nukes at the time it wouldn't have worked
RabidKangaroo15: They exist only to wipe out large amounts of people all at once, and as soon as anywhere other than a test site gets nailed we all kill eachother
RabidKangaroo15: You can't invade someone with nukes
RabidKangaroo15: It's all ground-level stuff and weaker bombs that won't take out entire cities
RabidKangaroo15: Plus nobody would invade us anyway
RabidKangaroo15: Last we checked, we spend more on "self-defense" than every other country in the world combined
RabidKangaroo15: In quotes because we never actually use it for self defense
RabidKangaroo15: It's almost exclusively used for the sake of aggression
boss trombone: So if you were given completel control of the US goverment, how would you fix this?
RabidKangaroo15: But we call it "anticipatory self-defense" and people seem to accept that even though it's absolute bullshit
RabidKangaroo15: You don't, really
RabidKangaroo15: You could fix it if you had control of the entire WORLD
RabidKangaroo15: But with the rivalry and all between us and other countries
boss trombone: Isn't the U.S working on destorying nukes?
boss trombone: r
RabidKangaroo15: No
RabidKangaroo15: We're making more though
RabidKangaroo15: And militarizing constantly
boss trombone: then what's the big deal about getting rid of weapons of massive destrction in iraq?
RabidKangaroo15: And running shows like that stupid one on Discovery with that idiot marine
RabidKangaroo15: There are no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq
RabidKangaroo15: It was a false pretense to go to war for the sake of installing a puppet government in Iraq that would comply to the demands of the US
RabidKangaroo15: We have actively suppressed democracy in Iraq after we established it
RabidKangaroo15: Because they had an election and didn't elect the right person
RabidKangaroo15: So we killed the guy and blew the shit out of the country to send another message
RabidKangaroo15: There is no option for them, and no virtue on our side
RabidKangaroo15: The goal is to invade them, take all their stuff, and kill anyone who tries to stop us
RabidKangaroo15: Or ferry them off to secret prisons to be tortured to death
boss trombone: How does that stay the goal with bush gone?
boss trombone: and his administration
RabidKangaroo15: It's not like Bush is really responsible for the war
RabidKangaroo15: His administration in part
RabidKangaroo15: But it's more like
RabidKangaroo15: You get the corruption from the ground up, but it spreads out
RabidKangaroo15: You're running for congress and you need campaign money, so you get it from company X, and now you owe them favors
RabidKangaroo15: So that builds up over time
RabidKangaroo15: Then you have the government bodies that are little more than complex terrorist organizations and theives
RabidKangaroo15: You have the CIA, which deals in war intelligence and political assassination
RabidKangaroo15: FBI, which robs the populace
RabidKangaroo15: Etc, etc
RabidKangaroo15: The majority of the US government is blatantly unconstitutional
RabidKangaroo15: The founders had some good ideas, but they've faded to history
RabidKangaroo15: Everyone whines about things being unconstitutional like the document matters anymore
boss trombone: If you know it all, why don't you try informing as many people as you can?
RabidKangaroo15: If you're the superpower of the world and using it for terrorist and control purposes, you're not going to let your own measly laws stop you
RabidKangaroo15: Have you seen the average person?
RabidKangaroo15: Granted this is relatively hidden information, but it's not like you really have to look far to find it
RabidKangaroo15: Read a Chomsky book, information given
RabidKangaroo15: Perhaps my favorite scene in Waking Life is when the guy in the bar asks the protagnonist "Which is the most inherent human characteristic: Fear, or laziness?"
RabidKangaroo15: People would rather be miserable all day at their jobs, go home and watch stupid bullshit on TV than read a book
RabidKangaroo15: Unless they're forced to learn something, they won't
RabidKangaroo15: Given that the companies that run the news organizations are some of the ones handing out those campaign funds, it's unlikely that you're going to see any real journalism on the evening news
RabidKangaroo15: And the really sinister thing is that they don't actually lie
RabidKangaroo15: They just selectively choose the information they want to present
RabidKangaroo15: So all the evil things the US are doing doesn't show up, and you instead have the unchallenged view that the US is the guiding light for freedom and democracy and eagles and flags and whatever
RabidKangaroo15: Which is nothing more than a shitty opinion, but not inherently wrong
RabidKangaroo15: If you don't want America to know something, don't run stories on it
RabidKangaroo15: Nobody reads anymore, so you don't have to worry about that
boss trombone: I don't know how you want to live or what motivates you to go to college if you know and think all of this
RabidKangaroo15: I think the most recent statistic I read was that something like 3% of Americans read books in their spare time
boss trombone: A lot of people read on the itnernet, though
RabidKangaroo15: Which is an interesting development, but still not all that important in the long run for a few reasons
RabidKangaroo15: for one, people still don't read the news online, and if they do it's coming from the same sources as the TV news
RabidKangaroo15: They could read blogs, but generally they don't have any real credibility
RabidKangaroo15: And the main thing, once more, people are lazy
RabidKangaroo15: They don't go online to read the news, they do it to check their email and then they watch videos of dogs rollerskating on YouTube
boss trombone: lol
RabidKangaroo15: Plus, the freedom of the internet is being attacked by every company that provides it
RabidKangaroo15: You know plenty about net neutrality
RabidKangaroo15: The CEO of Verizon said something like "It's inevitable that the content of the internet will be regulated by the phone companies"
RabidKangaroo15: And him and all his phone company buddies say the same thing
RabidKangaroo15: They actively lobby congress to get rid of net neutrality on a constant basis
RabidKangaroo15: Since free flow of information is a dangerous thing in a control society
RabidKangaroo15: And they'll eventually get what they want, no doubt
RabidKangaroo15: The people don't want is, but this isn't a democracy and hasn't been for hundreds of years
RabidKangaroo15: The people don't get to decide, congress passes the laws
RabidKangaroo15: And congress was bought and paid for a long time ago
boss trombone: I really wouldn't want the internet to change
RabidKangaroo15: It will
boss trombone: People will just make another internet
boss trombone: if the 1st one gets sold out
RabidKangaroo15: You can't have two internets
boss trombone: Why not?

RabidKangaroo15: Who's going to pay for the service
RabidKangaroo15: There's no multi-billion dollar company that's going to provide a second internet for everyone
RabidKangaroo15: And your basement server isn't going to cut it
boss trombone: whatever
boss trombone: I still have faith in people
boss trombone: that
boss trombone: they won't let it happen
RabidKangaroo15: They have no say in the matter
boss trombone: They can cancel their service
RabidKangaroo15: They won't
RabidKangaroo15: The people that actually access dissident sites might stop paying
RabidKangaroo15: But they're the minority anyway
boss trombone: Why does it have to change?
boss trombone:
they are making profits
boss trombone: with it this way
RabidKangaroo15: They're part of the control structure, and that's more important than profits
RabidKangaroo15: They have plenty of profits
RabidKangaroo15: Plus with the end of net neutrality, sites will have to pay them shitloads of money to make their sites accessible
boss trombone: So it's the end of NG and SA?
RabidKangaroo15: So they'll end up making more money than before and be able to intensify their grip on the populace
RabidKangaroo15: Unless they can pay, yes
boss trombone: I just can't see that happening
boss trombone: millions of people will rage
RabidKangaroo15: Millions of people rage about lots of stuff
RabidKangaroo15: It's not like they can actually take action
RabidKangaroo15: And even when they do, the rage becomes acceptance after long enough
RabidKangaroo15: And after a generation or two there's nobody left to remember that it was worth raging over
RabidKangaroo15: I don't remember the old days
RabidKangaroo15: And I can read the history and all that, but it's largely unimportant besides an academic perspective
RabidKangaroo15: All that really matters is a brief moment of awareness
RabidKangaroo15: That doesn't seem to hit most people
RabidKangaroo15: When they're sitting in their cubicles doing meaningless paperwork, ready to drive home and watch soap operas
RabidKangaroo15: That maybe their life shouldn't be this way
RabidKangaroo15: They are property in the most basic sense, all they can hope for is to switch owners
RabidKangaroo15: The USA is fundamentally designed to be a utopia for the privelaged, at the expense of everyone else
RabidKangaroo15: So 99% of us get fucked and the 1% has a jolly good time
RabidKangaroo15: And we look at this with acceptance because "Well, I guess it's not that bad."
boss trombone: boss trombone: I don't know how you want to live or what motivates you to go to college if you know and think all of this
RabidKangaroo15: Realizing that you're being sodomized isn't necessarily a pleasant experience
RabidKangaroo15: But at least you know from that point on
RabidKangaroo15: And there's something naturally important about the pursuit of knowledge
RabidKangaroo15: Plus it's not like college really deals with most of this anyway
boss trombone: So
boss trombone: Are you leaving
boss trombone: the us
boss trombone: after college?
RabidKangaroo15: As soon as I can feasibly leave this country, I will
RabidKangaroo15: This country is stuck in one of the stranger paradoxes where it's possibly the worst country in the world to live in yet the population thinks it's the best
RabidKangaroo15: And the outsiders look in wondering if everyone is just stupid, because the only other possibility is that the whole country is so indoctrinated that they have no idea what's going on
RabidKangaroo15: I would argue that it's a bit of both
RabidKangaroo15: Anyway
RabidKangaroo15: I need to run along now
RabidKangaroo15: Things to do

In summary, HEY BUDDY, SUPPORT OUR TROOPS AND ISRAEL AND THE FLAG OR YOU'RE NOT A GOOD PATRIOT LIKE I AM.

A third conversation with NG user "life"


Posted by Rabid-Echidna - August 15th, 2008


I highly recommend it. Having to replace bank cards and drivers licenses is good fun.

In regards to losing your wallet: